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Sailing Rig for an Arkansas Traveler.

Discussion in 'Strippers, Stitch-n-Glue, and Other Wood Composite' started by Jim Dodd, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. Jim Dodd

    Jim Dodd LOVES Wooden Canoes

    I'm hoping that Todd will chime in !

    My Son is building his first cedar strip canoe. I lofted plans for an Arkansas Traveler, from the Adirondack Museum. A Rushton design.
    It is shortened to 14', and will be setup as a solo double paddle craft.

    I'm looking for a sailing rig, or at least advise on how to set this canoe up to sail ?
    Any ideas ?

    Thanks !

    Jim
     
  2. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

  3. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams all wood nut

    I have a 1895 Traveler in the shop right now. A more narrow canoe, designed for two, I have never seen! It seems that sailing one shortened to 14' would be "invigorating"...
     
  4. RoadRunner

    RoadRunner Enthusiastic about Wooden Canoes

    Got any photos of the 1895?
     
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    Jim Dodd

    Jim Dodd LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Thanks Benson !
    That's will get me going the right direction !

    Jim
     
  6. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    Here is a photo of a Rushton Igo (beamiest of the Ugo, Igo, AT triumvarate). It has a fairly standard lateen rig. If I recall, the canoe is 15'. Don't know the sail area.
     

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  7. Todd Bradshaw

    Todd Bradshaw Sailmaker

    That boat is narrow enough that I'd keep the sail area pretty modest (maybe 30-40 sq. ft.) keep the center of effort fairly low, and keep the boom relatively short. Long booms (like on lateen sails) dragging in the water when the boat heels and the sail is outboard are a potential formula for disaster. Naturally, it will all depend on the skills of the sailor and what sort of conditions he chooses to sail in (or not sail in) but in general I've probably sold more short-ish-boomed balanced lugsails for that sort of small canoes over the years than any other type. The lugs go up and down very quickly with only one line holding them up They can have reef points, though I tend to find that reefs on most canoe sails usually don't get used much at all, and they're pretty good performers. They can also be battened or made without any, depending on the perimeter shape and whether they have a roach hanging out the back end which needs support or not.

    One other thing to keep in mind is that your stripper needs a rather hefty gunwale/thwart and/or deck structure if you plan on clamping a sail rig to it. Sailing generates a lot more twisting force than paddling and requires more and bigger trim to get a solid grip.

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    battened lug on Wee Rob canoe

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  8. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams all wood nut

    Here are a couple of pics of my 1895. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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    Jim Dodd

    Jim Dodd LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Great Replies !

    I've been studying the Photos.
    First I like the idea of making the sail rig removable ! I Like the Wee Rob . I noticed the air bags, interesting !

    Marks 1895, looks very similar to my shortened Traveler. IMG_0746_zps5ovufwjo.jpg
    Not a lot of room in my shop for a better pic, but I will try tomorrow to get a better one.

    Thanks Tod for the advise on the gunnel construction ! I'll keep it in mind, when I get closer !

    Jim
     
  10. Mark Adams

    Mark Adams all wood nut

    Hi Jim,,

    I should add that it is a 1895 Arkansas Traveler. This is probably why you notice similarities I think the AM plans are from a later canoe though. (I don't wanna go dig mine out to confirm that though. I am not quite sure where they are!)
     
  11. RoadRunner

    RoadRunner Enthusiastic about Wooden Canoes

    Wow 1895 looks awesome. Where did you get plans for something like that? Probably out of my league, but the look is just amazing.
     
  12. Dan Miller

    Dan Miller cranky canoeist Staff Member

    Should be available from the Adirondack Museum (http://www.adkmuseum.org), but not shown in their online store. Give them a call.
     
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    Jim Dodd

    Jim Dodd LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Mine are tucked away also.

    I purchased a set plans for Mac McCarthy's Wee Lassie II, from Mac. I laid them out and noticed a similarity to my Arkansas Traveler forms. Sure enough Mac took the AT design, shortened the form spacing, and change the stem forms, then called it the Wee Lassie II.
    That design is versatile!
    Looking back I should have built it at the original 15'

    Thanks !

    Jim
     

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