Lurk Nah, my point is that on many forums (this one included) you can read and lurk without logging in. You just click on the forum and you are ready to read to your heart's content. If you want to respond, you have to login and obviously that is a good thing to avoid those folks that seem to think spam is a good thing in this world. I just tried Sailing Canoe, and I can't pull up the forum without logging in. This is new. You could lurk before - no problem. It is no big deal to a legitimate user. I was trying to point the change out to Ed. Fitz.