OT serial number 107647

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  1. Strandb

    Strandb New Member

    Here is another boat ready for the dump. Hope this is the right number. My dad rehabed it for a sea scout project 1950. Two old canoes made one. Thanks
     
  2. smallboatshop

    smallboatshop Restorers

    Hi, The Old Town with number 107647 is a 9' dingy.

    Dan
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    Strandb

    Strandb New Member

    I must have the number wrong. It is a 18 ft canoe. Number is hard to read. Maybe the 6 is an 8
     
  4. smallboatshop

    smallboatshop Restorers

    That will work! Your canoe is an 18' CS or Middle Grade OTCA Model with western red cedar planking, open spruce gunwales and oak decks, thwarts and seat frames. It was equiped with a keel, painted maroon and shipped to New Jersey in 1934.

    The scan of this record is attached -- click on it to get a larger image. This scan and several hundred thousand others were created with substantial grants from the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association (WCHA) and others. A description of the project to preserve these records is available at http://www.wcha.org/ot_records/ if you want more details. I hope that you and anyone else reading this will join or renew membership in the WCHA so that services like this can continue. See http://www.wcha.org/wcha/ to learn more about the WCHA and http://www.wcha.org/join.php to renew.

    It is also possible that you could have another number or manufacturer if this description doesn't match your canoe. Feel free to reply here if you have any other questions. Providing photographs would help with identification, as would an accurate measurement of the boat's length.

    Dan

    Daniel Eaton
    smallboat shop
    Denmark, Maine
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    Strandb

    Strandb New Member

    Dan this canoe is not a OTCA I think it's a HW. It has the 16" decks. One deck is oak the other looks like mahogany, remnants of original inwale may be mahogany. Thwarts and seats are oak. Hard time seeing number owner stamped his name over it. It's stamped Bartlett New Haven Ct. Could you look up 101641.
    Thanks Eric
     
  6. smallboatshop

    smallboatshop Restorers

    Hi Eric. Here you go - 101641-18.jpg Usually the AA Grade had mahogany for the rails, decks, thwarts and seat frames. I don't know what the reference to Carleton means. Maybe that has something to do with the oak?? Dan
     
  7. Benson Gray

    Benson Gray Canoe History Enthusiast Staff Member

    There were times when a customer ordered a specific Carleton canoe from the factory but none were readily available in inventory. They would occasionally ship a similar Old Town canoe instead and note the substitution on the build record in case there were any problems later. The example below shows a four foot model canoe that was built as an Old Town with serial number 89161 and was shipped as a Carleton with the name spelled out on the side.

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    See http://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/11718/ for an example of a Carleton that was shipped as an Old Town. My guess is that the oak deck may be a replacement since it would be highly unusual for a canoe to leave the factory with each deck made from a different type of wood. Some of the tricks described at http://www.wcha.org/forums/index.php?threads/791/ may help you confirm the serial number. Posting some pictures of the numbers and the rest of the canoe here could also help.

    Benson
     
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    Strandb

    Strandb New Member

    101641 has to be it. The canoe is stamped Chas Bartlett E Haven CT all over. The mahogany deck seems original, the oak deck is a replacement. It has mahogany inwale attached. One thwart seems to be mahogany. My dad rebuilt this in 1950 (when he was 16 yrs old) for a sea scout project. They got 2 canoes from the shore and made one. They probably used the oak seats and parts from the other canoe. This thing is a total wreck. I hope to float in it again some day.
    Thanks for all the help. I'll post pictures when get further along.

    Dan
    I checked out your web sight. Love that war canoe. I rode one at boy scout camp. It was real fast.
     

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