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My first build - E.M.White 1920 model

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by jva74, May 3, 2019.

  1. jva74

    jva74 Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Hello all,

    here's my first w&c canoe built by books and internet wisdom. Plans are from Alex, model "Emily" down scaled to 16 ft copy of 1920s E.M.White model. Wood is red cedar combined with ash inwales, cherry outwales and furniture and walnut decks. On top 4 coats of marine varnish and Epifanes teal green on canvas #10. Hand canned seats. Took me six months exactly.

    Next week will show if she floats. See you on Danube sometimes!

    Juraj
     

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  2. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    Wow, this is your first build? Very nice work! Well executed work and a beautiful product. Have you had it out on the water yet? You may not get to do much paddling because of all the excited conversations you'll have. Congratulations on a very nice job, Juraj.

    Michael
     
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  3. pklonowski

    pklonowski Unrepentant Canoeist

    Nice piece of work, indeed! Pictures on the water would be very welcome!
     
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    jva74

    jva74 Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks! It has been an awful weather here recently and I still did not figure out, how to get Emily out from the 2nd floor building... In the meantime, I copied Thule canoe carrier rack pieces for safe transportation.

    There seems to be a weather window on Saturday like it was for Normandy landing so we'll see!
     

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    jva74

    jva74 Curious about Wooden Canoes

    She floats! No leaks, paint blistering or rot observed so far ;) my first time in wooden canoe. Yes!!
     

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  6. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    Outstanding! The canoe looks great on the water with happy people in it. That's a very nice paddle - tell us more about it.
    ...and nice t-shirt too!
     
  7. Craig Johnson

    Craig Johnson LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Yes. Lets see that paddle
     
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    jva74

    jva74 Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Yes it all started with cherry beavertail, as a supplement to my woodland Indian reenactment. Then I bought used fiberglass 17-footer and made some more paddles, because there are so many shapes and types of wood /thanks Murat for your webpage/. After watching Bill Mason films, I got the wood&canvas canoe fever :D

    I recorded the building process in a photo album, so have a look and enjoy.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qjmrwfnPzMX25aCq5
     

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  9. John J. Connell

    John J. Connell Curious about Wooden Canoes

    We had our E.M.White seats re-canned years ago at the Baxter School for the blind near Falmouth Maine -wonderful job.
     
  10. JClearwater

    JClearwater Wooden Canoe Maniac

    Juraj ,
    Beautiful job on both the canoe and the paddles. Bravo!

    Jim
     
  11. John J. Connell

    John J. Connell Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Turns out that our 1920's E.B.White is actually closer to a pre-1900 purpose built Maine Guide canoe originally made w/o seats. Also, has original thwarts, original canvas (over 13 lead paint coatings of many colors), beaded inwales, very wide planking - largest is 7 1/2" and other neat features. Plus 2 maple Penobscot paddles of equal vintage. Would appreciate hearing of any related early White history. Thanks.
     
  12. Ron Bedard

    Ron Bedard Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Gorgeous!
    I didn't know cherry can work for outwhales. My experience is that it stains black pretty quickly at water contact. Sure is pretty, and a nice contrast with the ash.
    What canvas filler did you use, and do you now have a form that would allow more canoes to be built?
    My wife and I just took my restored O.T. 18' guide for our first paddle. Sure is a great feeling.
    Good luck
    Ron
     
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    jva74

    jva74 Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Hi Ron, canvas filler was the standard silica dust/BLO type. Yes I have the form (disassembled) but I am not getting into shipbuilding any time soon.
    Emily is a pleasure to look at and handles great in the water, raising envious looks. It resembles Cruiser with less rocker, excellent for slow water here around the Danube river.
     

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  14. Ron Bedard

    Ron Bedard Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Really gorgeous!
    Have you calculated the expense ratio between the construction of the form and the canoe itself. That would be useful information as I contemplate future projects. Also, do you think you could have accomplished this outdoors with a tarp to cover the work at night? My recent restoration was done this way, but was finished in 6 weeks, not six months.
    Regards,
    Ron
     
  15. Michael Graessle

    Michael Graessle Enthusiastic about Wooden Canoes

    Juraj,

    That is BEAUTIFUL work! I would have never believed that was your first canoe. I have be restoring my 1924 OTCA for over two years now and seeing your work really shames me for not getting more work done. Time for me to get back at it.

    Again, beautiful work. I hope you have many years of paddling ahead of you.

    Michael
     
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    jva74

    jva74 Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Oh thanks!
    Form, steam chamber and stem/rail bending jigs were maybe 15% of the total cost and 1/5th of the production time. Form was the open one with spruce ribbands.

    I worked on it in closed room with no heating all the winter until spring. Maybe you can pull it off under the open sky in Italy, but big changes in humidity are no good, especially when canvassing.

    Juraj
     
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  17. Ron Bedard

    Ron Bedard Curious about Wooden Canoes

    Thanks Juraj
    Interesting information. I've been able to do successful restorations under the trees in the back yard, but have wondered about a build from scratch. I live pretty close to where Old Town built their canoes, and viable restoration candidates aren't too hard to find. I'm meeting someone Sunday morning and may come home with what looks like a nice 16 footer.
    Happy paddling!
    Ron
     

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