David Satter
Wooden Canoe Maniac
I had some saved but I'm running out. Any ideas? a look a like? I know some people use small grommets. Just wondering if anybody else has some inventive ideas.
Morris keel washers
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Howie
Wooden Canoe Maniac
You mean like the type Old Town uses - cup washers? I've gotten them from Island Falls Canoe - although they call them 'WASHERS- BRASS' I believe.
I lucked out a few years ago with a Carleton that had sponsons. I chucked the sponsons, but they used a ton of screws and each used a cup washer.
I lucked out a few years ago with a Carleton that had sponsons. I chucked the sponsons, but they used a ton of screws and each used a cup washer.
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David Satter
Wooden Canoe Maniac
Howie, I see that on Jerry's site it says brass finish washers, are they the cup washers? I'll have to check with him, and .35 cents each seems like a lot, but i guess not if you only need 30 or 40. The regular brass finish washers from Jamestown distributors are $5 for a hundred of them.
Greg Nolan
enthusiast
Bolt Depot has finish washers in brass, silicon bronze, two kinds of stainless steel, and nickel-plated steel. They will sell any amount, from 1 to as much as you want, at reasonable prices. Over the years I have had very good, fast service from them:
https://www.boltdepot.com/Catalog.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkcf8_vmn6wIVCITICh1LbgpVEAAYASAAEgJch_D_BwE
for washers:
https://www.boltdepot.com/Washers.aspx
for their catalogue (all sorts of stainless, ronze, and brass screws, bolts, etc):
https://www.boltdepot.com/Catalog.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkcf8_vmn6wIVCITICh1LbgpVEAAYASAAEgJch_D_BwE
https://www.boltdepot.com/Catalog.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkcf8_vmn6wIVCITICh1LbgpVEAAYASAAEgJch_D_BwE
for washers:
https://www.boltdepot.com/Washers.aspx
for their catalogue (all sorts of stainless, ronze, and brass screws, bolts, etc):
https://www.boltdepot.com/Catalog.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkcf8_vmn6wIVCITICh1LbgpVEAAYASAAEgJch_D_BwE
Craig Johnson
Lifetime member
Finish washers are not the same as the original keel screw washers. They hold the screw head proud of the surface which is no fun on the knees.
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David Satter
Wooden Canoe Maniac
Yes , the cup style or maybe the half of the grommet side will put that screw down flush with the rib. It's getting the correct size screw and washer to look and feel nice. I don't want to use finish washers on this nice old Morris.
Dave Osborn
LIFE MEMBER
What you are looking for are Flush Type Finishing Washers.
I’ve been skunked on finding any in #8 brass. There are plenty available that are brass, BUT nickel plated.
I don’t know of an easy way to strip nickel plating.
Speak up if you find some.
Good luck!
I’ve been skunked on finding any in #8 brass. There are plenty available that are brass, BUT nickel plated.
I don’t know of an easy way to strip nickel plating.
Speak up if you find some.
Good luck!
I got a couple bags of them from Jerry Stelmok at Assembly a few years ago. He's probably your best bet.
The alternative is to get an arbor press and fabricate a die to press your own from flat stock.
The alternative is to get an arbor press and fabricate a die to press your own from flat stock.
Dave Osborn
LIFE MEMBER
I have made them from regular finish washers. Using a drill/countersink that will match a #8 wood screw, make a hole in something harder than wood. I used a piece of Corian countertop. Then put a #6 finish washer over the hole and #6 flat head screw through the washer, into the hole. Pop it with a hammer until the washer flares out around the screw.
I found that a #6 finish washer and screw make a better size for the typical #8 keel screw.
You may need to screw around with the depth of the countersunk hole to get it right.
I’ll edit this with some photos soon.
I found that a #6 finish washer and screw make a better size for the typical #8 keel screw.
You may need to screw around with the depth of the countersunk hole to get it right.
I’ll edit this with some photos soon.
