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Canvas Removed, Help Determining Make/Model

Discussion in 'Traditional All-Wood Construction' started by djhouck, May 25, 2010.

  1. djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    Can anyone tell what make/model this may be by my pics? I searched and couldn't find any serial #'s, they may be filled with varnish but I can't find them? Help please. Any advice on my restoration progress is appreciated.

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  2. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Make

    I'll bite. Could you post some dimensions? It might be an Old Town 50 pounder. The deck cutout looks similar to one I did, but the thwart doesn't look like an OT. Check both stems for a serial no.

    Rib thickness and dimensions may help. Photos of the decks, thwart and seats. Stem photos may also assist.

    I'm sure folks are looking at your photos. It is just that the maker is not immediately obvious.

    Good luck with your project.

    Fitz
     
  3. Kathryn Klos

    Kathryn Klos squirrel whisperer

    Looks fifity-pounder-ish to me, too. If there's paint on the stems, you may want to use a little zip-strip. Here's a video showing a stem with an easy-to-read serial number:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYwVSJhejFA
     
  4. OP
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    djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    There are more pics on my last thread, I hope they help. Could it be that there is so much varnish that I wouldn't be able to see the#'s?
     
  5. OP
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    djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    I'm really struggling to get a make on my canoe. I was reading "The Wood & Canvas Canoe" by Stelmok and Thurlow and on page 44 the bottom right photo almost identically resembles my canoe set up. Does anyone know what type of canoe that is in the pic (provided you have the book)?
     

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  6. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    Old Town

    How long is this canoe?

    The seat frame and the diamond head carriage bolts suggest that it is an Old Town.

    There is likely a serial number on both stems. You may need to strip the stems some or clean them thoroughly to see the number.

    If it is about 15 feet long, I would go with the 50 pounder model.

    The canoe on Page 44 of The Wood and Canvas Canoe is a canoe built by Jerry and Rollin - probably an Atkinson Traveler.
     
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  7. Fitz

    Fitz Wooden Canoes are in the Blood

    50 Pounder

    Here is one I rehabbed. Note the deck cut out.
     

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  8. OP
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    djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    Yeah it is 15', looks just like the one you rehabbed. I'm going to strip the varnish soon I hope I come across the #'s. Thanks much
     
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    djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    Broken inside Rails, what to do?

    Both of my inside rails are cracked severely. I was wondering if I should splice a piece in, or replace them. I'm thinking that replacing them will be a real challenge. Any advice will be appreciated.
     

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  10. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    My vote

    I vote for replacing with spruce. You can try to patch/splice but you'll be glad you repaced. It's not that bad, just time consuming.
     
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    djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    I've never done any wood bending and don't have the equipment set up. How complicated Would it be? How would I get the replacements, have them milled or order them from a company?
     
  12. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    Hi Donovan

    I think there are alot of members not too far from you that would help. Bending a rib is not too tough. You bend it over the canoe one ore two ribs outward of where it should go. Soak it overnight. Wrap it in a towel, pour boiling hot water over it for ten minutes and bend it over the hull. there are lots of youtube vids that demonstrate.
     
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    djhouck

    djhouck "Got Water"

    Advice on making a Scarf joint

    Any tips on making a scarf joint would be greatly appreciated.
     
  14. thirsty

    thirsty #8111

    Peggy & I live in Lovelton, (suburb of Mehoopany). We are just finishing up a 1909 OT Double Gunnel, FINALLY! We have a steam box, set up to stretch canvas, saws, planer, ect. Your more than welcome to come over. We're not real experienced, but have learned a little of what not to do. We have a couple of projects, but have room for you.
    Dave Davidson
     

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