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Before and After...Critique?

Discussion in 'Wood and Canvas' started by yeolwoodsman, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    I'm hoping to post a few pictures of the project I just finished. It will be getting into the water tomorrow or Friday and will be with us on a camping trip to the Adirondacks next week. Since this is my first restoration I was interested in a critique form some of the wonderful contributors here on the forum. I'm not sure how many pictures I can add, but I'll do what I can. I hope that I've done this boat justice! It's a 16' 1945 Otca. CS grade. I'll add an additional post for additional pictures.
     

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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    More pics

    Here are the next 6
     

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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Last Two

    Last two... How'd I do?
     

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  4. John Greer

    John Greer LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Sure you haven't done this before?? I'd say you did a super job. Looks like you had some substantial stem/deck/rib work and I know what this is like as I've done several. Beautiful canoe and great job.

    I've just finished up a 1909 Old Town closed gunnel this week which I've been working on for the past year as it had LOTS of repair/replacement needed. Should have some pictures in the near future.
     
  5. Scot T

    Scot T LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Wow! Nice job. Looks like you are an "ol' pro", IMO.

    Interesting joinery in the original seats. Those must have been fun to duplicate. Or do I see that you altered it a little?? That's it! Rip them out and start over!

    Be sure to post some photos of your trip. I, for one, would like to see that beautiful canoe surrounded by some Adirondack grandeur.
     
  6. fred capenos

    fred capenos Canoe Pilot

    Great looking canoe. Isn't it a blast to look at the before and after's. Only you can feel the thunder. Now go get another one. Fred
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Thanks

    Thanks for the encouraging words. The seats on this were in rough shape and their construction was somewhat crude. I had little choice but to completely replace them. Where the originals had half laps for all the joinery I used through mortise and tennons for the corners and half laps for the slats. It should be a lot stronger. The original front seat was cracked and reinforced with angle iron... functional but not very attractive.

    In terms of the next one. I have a 1922 HW CS grade ready to go next and am picking up a mystery Old Town on our camping trip next week. I'll be busy for a while.
     
  8. Dave Wermuth

    Dave Wermuth Who hid my paddle?

    Well Done

    Very nice job.
     
  9. Steve Ambrose

    Steve Ambrose Nut in a Canoe

    Rib Splices

    If you don't mind, how about a short description on the technique you used to splice the rib ends. I'm facing the same problem on the Guide I'm rebuilding and would prefer not to replace the ribs under the stem for obvious reasons.
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Rib Scarf

    I used a scarf joint to attach the new rib ends to the ribs. Its about a 15 degree angle through the rib just below where the rib was soft. At first I used a back saw that I had but it was not as smooth as I would have liked. I picked up a little pull saw made by Marples from the Home Depot. It has a very thin and flexible blade but it worked like a charm. After cutting it I cleaned the cut up with a sharp 2" chisel. I cut a matching piece from some rib stock and then glued it on. I was a little skeptical about the strength of the joint so I experimented with both epoxy and water proof wood glue. The waterproof wood glue proved to be stronger. (Titebond Three) After it was glued up and dried I shaped the rib end to match the original as best I could. I've attached a photo that shows the ends glued on. Its actually a picture of the glue up for the inwale but it shows the ribs.
     

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  11. ebeeby

    ebeeby Novice Canoe Restorer

    Wow - back from the dead! Nice !!

    Where's the photo of you paddling ??
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    Maiden Voyage

    A couple shots of the first time back in the water. Yes I did go outside the swimming area, and yes, I know, it is not a wood paddle... I'm embarrassed, but the varnish was drying on the two wood ones that I have right now.
     

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  13. tnyankee

    tnyankee LOVES Wooden Canoes

    Nice job on the restoration. I want to use that same paint scheme on one of my canoes. What color is the light green and what brand paint?

    Adam
     
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    yeolwoodsman

    yeolwoodsman Rolf Warncke

    My green

    The light green on the canoe is my own. I mixed some yellow into the green until it looked like a shade I liked. I had intended to add a stripe as a transition line but liked the way it looked without it, so I left it. The paint is Rustoleum Marine Coatings Topside paint. The Rustoleum Marine paint does not come in a yellow so I used some of their Professional High Performance enamel for the yellow. I'm guessing it's somewhat unconventional but after pouring over all the posts about paint that I could find, and seeing that some use paint from tractor supply, and some have used porch and deck enamel, I settled with this. We'll see how it holds up. It went on nice and I'm pleased with the results.
     

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