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Another Ebay Scam To Avoid

Discussion in 'Scale and Miniature Canoe Models' started by Roger Young, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. Roger Young

    Roger Young display sample collector

    Here we go again...

    once more, a would-be antique canoe expert with self-professed knowledge of what an authentic Kennebec Canoe Co. sample looks like, posts another of the recently-imported Chinese toys as the real thing, claiming it to be "antique" and made by Kennebec, even though the stencilling on the side is visibly recent, and not even being close to the correct font.

    see: https://www.ebay.com/itm/362525888452

    The seller's description reads: "This is a rare and unusual antique Salesman Sample Canoe model from the Kennebec Canoe Company out of Waterville Maine. It measures 27.5 inches in length, 4.75 inches wide, 2 inches in height. It is in excellent condition. The canoe is antique, i believe the lettering is not original to the canoe and is probably more recent. The canoe is in excellent condition. It is hand made of excellent quality."

    I have written the seller to advise that this information is completely bogus, that the item is a recent Chinese import, that the posted offer could be considered fraudulent, and suggested the listing be taken down. We'll see.
     

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  2. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    I also wrote the seller, nicely but clearly and directly, on the day the listing was made (3 days ago). I included links to discussions and photos of authentic Kennebec model canoes, and made it clear that this is not an antique, not made by Kennebec, not rare, and not a salesman's sample. The seller has not responded and the listing remains active and unchanged. Potential bidders beware!
     
  3. OP
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    Roger Young

    Roger Young display sample collector

    Michael, the seller has continued to advertise this bogus piece on eBay. Although advised that the article is fake, eBay has done nothing - not surprising since this is one of their vaunted 'Power Sellers', and they have a vested interest in collecting nickle and dime commissions from his many sales.

    I publicly 'outed' this deceptive listing on FB 'Fans of WCHA', hoping to warn others of the scam. The seller then slightly amended his listing, but continued to insist that the piece is either "antique" or "vintage". The listing later expired without bids. He has now subsequently re-listed, again making many of the same claims that this is a vintage salesman's sample, rare, with "Kennebec" brand name, albeit perhaps "added later". He stubbornly refuses to accept that he is in error, and maintains this is a valuable, vintage item. To enlighten him, I have sent him the below photos of identical pieces, complete with the boxes they come in, imported from China, and sold by other, more scrupulous and honest eBay vendors for $20 - $25, for exactly what they are - very cheap, mass-produced replicas or toy canoes, not authentic, rare "samples" worth hundreds (or thousands), as he might wish some gullible buyer to believe.

    His persistent bogus claims and false advertising hopefully are seen as an indication of his non-desirability as a person to deal with.
    A name to avoid: barleyneckusa.
     

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  4. Michael Grace

    Michael Grace Lifetime Member

    Hi Roger. I saw the new listing this morning as well. The seller - barleyneckusa - now describes the canoe as "vintage in age" and still calls it a "vintage salesman's sample". This little canoe is clearly and obviously not a salesman's sample. Merriam-Webster defines the word vintage as "a period of origin or manufacture", so sure it's vintage, just as everything ever made is vintage. The seller, having been given expert and verifiable information on this cheap import, still attempts to suggest that this is a rare and valuable piece. I have no stake in this and have no knowledge of or dealings with this seller, but a quick internet search turns up some court filings related to their sales. And this from tiffanyfakes.com, a website devoted to outing unscrupulous sellers of Tiffany lamps and related items (they call an unscrupulous seller a "contributor" to their site):

    "BARLEYNECKUSA
    This seller has been a frequent contributor to TIFFANYFAKES.COM and he is back with two of the most outrageous examples ever attributed to Tiffany. As antique dealers have they no pride in their profession? Obviously the answer is NO."

    On that site, barleyneckusa is identified as a "frequent seller of fake Tiffany" that buyers should "stay away from... at all costs".
     

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